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[Chris in Kabul]

Hi All,
I have personally known the chairman of the club for well over 40 years and he knows full well what FPV is all about and as I said, he will be putting it to the members possibly this evening at their christmas dinner.
Cheers
Chris

[n00b@FPV]

very interested and i may point this out to hpmac and a couple of my other friends
do we need b certificate or anything to fly
there may also be some problems if people have a plane on 2.4 for the people on video 2.4.

[Coyote]

Yes a frequency chart will have to be drawn up of whos on what so it can be fairly that everyone has a fair and safe crack of the whip

[Chris in Kabul]

Hi All,
As regards certification, the normal rules apply i.e. to fly solo you need a BMFA A certificate but otherwise a buddy lead or Pilot in Charge would suffice.

They have a very comprehensive frequency control system in place with the usual peg board system. I believe 99% of them are 2.4 flyers now.

I know during other public events they hold they have a transmitter control system in place which is not a bad idea.

My idea of how the day or days should go if we do both days is something along the lines of a Public Relations demonstration.
To be fair I don't think we should hog the airways so to speak but to let them have their fair share of flying as well of course.
For some of the more experienced FPV'ers it might be an idea to have a demo area set up showing off some of the equipment, certainly I hope Simon will be doing this.
Inexperienced FPV'ers such as myself could just help promote our facet of the hobby as well as learn from it ourselves. Of course I see my main job as the liason between the Bardnay flyers members and the FPV fraternity.

If anyone has any other ideas or questions, please let me know and we can iron any problems out well in advance.

Cheers

Chris

[Njoro]

On that note I'd better go make the sanis for the trip eh

[Pasty]

Hi All,
As regards certification, the normal rules apply i.e. to fly solo you need a BMFA A certificate but otherwise a buddy lead or Pilot in Charge would suffice.

Altho I'm BMFA B certified I'm not BMFA insured, if the club is BMFA affiliated does that mean only BMFA insurance is accepted?

[n00b@FPV]

quick question
can only one person fly per frequencey on video??

[Chris in Kabul]

That is a very good point and one that I will refer to someone with a lot more knowledge than myself.
Any takers on this one?
Obviously if one person was on 2.4 Ghz video gear and the other was on UHF I doubt there would be a problem as long as their flight controls were on a different frequency.

[Coyote]

If two users on the same transmission frequency want to fly  i would suggest a 2 channel rule. The second user has to be on 2 channel from the first, ie if user 1 is on channel 1 then user 2 channel 3.

There wont be any bleed through doing that and once aircraft have decent seperation is wont matter at all

900 / 1/3 / 2.4 video being up at the same time is totally fine

No 2.4 vtx of high power to be powered up while 2.4 rc control users are in the air.

[Sebbie]

We will need a buddy for flying under new rules, so i guess we need to draw up a rota.
Just in case any goodie two shoes are there spying and trying to catch us out with new rules and  existing TX power ratings. 2.4Ghz-10mw and 5.8Ghz-25 mw etc.
That way we cant be tripped up, be prepared I say. 

[simondale]

I think we're going to need several BMFA qualified, BMFA insured pilots to man the buddy leads for the FPV pilots.  This is because BMFA rules require a buddy lead and BMFA affiliated club rules require BMFA insurance (although a couple of clubs that I know of have ignored that rule and accepted FPV UK/ Helifreak (is that the right name?) insurance instead of BMFA).

I am unfortunately neither.  My father (and business partner) is a BMFA member but without any badges (he's been flying models for 45 years, but not in a club).  I am of course a fully paid up member of FPV UK and I am covered by £5m public liability insurance.  FPV UK has no such buddy lead rule, although for the insurance to be valid I must be following the ANO rules which means I must have a second pilot with me who is technically in charge of the flight.

Channel 1 and 4 on 2.4GHz are OK together if you're only at 10mW but anything more powerful, or if the other person lands his plane at your feet (ie very close to your Rx, while your plane is a long way off), there's a problem. If possible we would have only 1 x 2.4GHz video pilot in the air at the time, 1 x 5.8GHz, etc.

[n00b@FPV]

ye but say there was 10 2.4 people and only one 5.8 the 5.8 guy could fly all day but the 2.4 people would have to take it in turns.

[Coyote]

Thats life

[simondale]

The 5.8GHz guy is probably using 5.8GHz because he uses 2.4GHz RC gear so it's yet more complicated...The 2.4GHz video guys probably won't want him to be flying on 2.4GHz RC whilst they're flying so he won't have a free reign.

Configuring a model with 433MHz RC (or 459MHz) and 5.8GHz video would probably give the most flying time.  Unless everyone shows up with that configuration!

[Jay28]

BMFA rules & buddy leads 

Does anybody have a vrx with more than 4 channels? My vtx has 8!